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SMART Recovery® Podcasts

Jul 14, 2021

Chuck Novak’s life hasn’t always been easy.  A substance use problem led to five years in prison.  While incarcerated, Chuck decided to use his time to change his life for the better.  He earned a paralegal certificate and started on a path to recovery.  Today, Chuck is a Master Licensed Drug and Alcohol Counselor...


Jul 13, 2021

Barry Grant’s experiences being incarcerated over 20 years ago changed and shaped his future forever.  Today, Barry is the owner of S.A.F.E Counseling Services, Director of Outpatient Services at Hope House, and SMART board member.  His tireless championing of the SMART program has helped countless people in their...


Jun 18, 2021

Matt Frank has been a SMART Facilitator for over seven years.  His uses his experience and LGBTQ+ perspectives to shape the tools and conversations to be most effective for his meeting participants. 

In this podcast, Matt talks about:

  • How pride can be a problem emotion
  • SMART discourages using labels
  • Practicing recovery...


May 17, 2021

Brett Saarela’s personal and professional experience led her to find her passion in helping older adults with mental health and addiction issues.  She is a licensed clinical social worker in New York and has devoted her time and efforts to ensuring the older population is seen and treated properly.  Brett is the


May 5, 2021

Mike Massey has been facilitating SMART Recovery Online (SROL) meetings since 2013.  His professional experience as a former teacher and union leader, as well as his personal experience with substance use, gave him the skills and abilities to help meeting participants.  When many of the participants said they also were...